Free Speech Space with MJ - Sue Grey

Sue Grey – Lawyer & Freedom Advocate

MJ: Hi everybody… I'm so delighted that we've got Sue Gray, lawyer, coming to have a chat today…Sue, the last three years, you have stood out…. And done amazing work and I'm amazed what you've managed to achieve.

SG: Thanks MJ, ..It's certainly been a pretty wild ride for the last few years. We're all learning every day and we wake up in the morning and go what on earth is going to happen today!

MJ: We're talking about stuff that three years ago, honestly, if you would have even talked, even mentioned it, you would have been laughed at, you would have been ridiculed.

SG: Yeah, yeah look absolutely it's been really interesting for me campaigning in the election, seeing the huge difference between what it was like campaigning in 2020 and what it's like campaigning now. And we're saying the same message, we haven't even had to change our policies since the last election because we called it right back then and we've been concerned about the globalisation and the loss of democracy and the interference with free speech and all of our freedoms and rights.

and all of the globalist control, all of those things, they're the same issues. But what has changed is we were treated as a kind of lunatic fringe three years ago, whereas now I go to the election meetings and I say, look, is anybody in the crowd happy with the way Labour's been behaving over the last three years? And if Labour's lucky, one person will say yes, the rest of the crowd will say no. I say, is anybody happy with the way National's been performing over the last three years?

everybody says no, I say, are you ready for a change? And everybody says yes. So it's the public has shifted a huge amount as people have caught up with how serious all of these things are. So, you know, there's a lot of depressing, challenging, frustrating stuff, but for me, there's also a huge amount of really exciting, positive stuff as the kind of people power movement steps up.

MJ: Well, you know, ivory towers are very, very hard to get into, you know. It's, they've made ivory towers everywhere. It's staggering and centralization, that's the key for building up big state…

SG: Yeah, whereas we're all about local decisions, people making decisions for themselves at a very local level, at an individual level, a family level, a community level. Why does the state need to be involved in all of these decisions? And of course they don't, it's just that they like to be involved.

MJ: Tell us about one example that you have actually seen or witnessed in the last three years.

SG: Gosh, there's a lot of contenders for that. One of the really major concerns for me is of course the Pfizer-Vax rollout and the silencing of any dissenting view. And my background, I've got a degree in biochemistry and microbiology, I've worked in public health, contact tracing, I was trained in how to deal with pandemics and epidemics. And then when this started happening, there were so many red flags because the government was doing the opposite of what they taught us. So the first thing you do is contain people together if there's a pandemic and you don't know what's causing it until you know more about it. What did the New Zealand government do? They said, hey, everybody come home from China. So if there really was a pandemic, they did the opposite of what they should have done. And then all the way through, they did odd things which raise red flags all the time.

and kept changing the rules and changing everything. And as time has gone on, it seems to me that the whole intention was to create enough fear and enough obedience and to just wear everybody down so much that everybody would actually willingly put out their arm to be injected with an experimental injection that may kill them without asking any questions. And that's exactly what has happened for a lot of New Zealanders…… you know, how would you design a system that would make people willingly put out their arm to get injected with something that they don't know what's in it and they don't know if it's safe and they don't know if it's effective and it might kill them, you do it by creating so much fear. So that is one of the contenders for the shockiest thing that happened. The other thing I think for me is when we went to Wellington...

And people came from all over New Zealand to challenge the government mandates and to stand united together because people knew that we had to do something, we had to stand together with people power. And on the one hand the brilliance of humanity showing the number 8 Y mentality, the cooperation that everybody just found a niche and did whatever they could do to make a beautiful community filled with peace and love and showing that……….